Comments on: Should the DNR raise hunting license fees? http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/ Dig Michigan! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:04:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: poppy http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-39496 poppy Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:41:34 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-39496 what is the fine for hunting without a License with my father,he had his but me and my brother didnt buy one,so my dad got the ticket for us not haveing one. ? what is the fine for hunting without a License with my father,he had his but me and my brother didnt buy one,so my dad got the ticket for us not haveing one. ?

]]> By: Wayne Hebert http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-39183 Wayne Hebert Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:49:50 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-39183 Yes raise them. When some one retires and moves away and hunted for 50 yrs in Mich. They sould not pay a full price non resident fee.I could not hunt this year with my sons for the first time since they were 14yrs.old. In most states fl.for one they do not charge for a senior over 65. Charge for adds in your rule books not just a selected few. Gun mfg,bow. ammo,pay to hunt places clothing mfg. on &on get with the times. DO SOMETHING see fl. rule book. Yes raise them. When some one retires and moves away and hunted for 50 yrs in Mich. They sould not pay a full price non resident fee.I could not hunt this year with my sons for the first time since they were 14yrs.old. In most states fl.for one they do not charge for a senior over 65. Charge for adds in your rule books not just a selected few. Gun mfg,bow. ammo,pay to hunt places clothing mfg. on &on get with the times. DO SOMETHING see fl. rule book.

]]> By: mark germain http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-38637 mark germain Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:23:15 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-38637 35 years of living in michigan and hunting every year is something i'll always remember' having to move to ohio in 1990 and trying to continue to hunt in michigan's up @ $100 to $132 i think this year 2008 is something that just might drive me to hunt in ohio stop the nonsense. 1 buck taken from 1990 on. 35 years of living in michigan and hunting every year is something i'll always remember' having to move to ohio in 1990 and trying to continue to hunt in michigan's up @ $100 to $132 i think this year 2008 is something that just might drive me to hunt in ohio stop the nonsense. 1 buck taken from 1990 on.

]]> By: George http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-36591 George Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:18:19 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-36591 There is a new link regarding my post above to view the first video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96l4mZsCKI0 Following that video, a meeting was held in Marquette in February. This link will take you to Delta County Conservation District website where a video is posted documenting that meeting. Click on the link and then click on the video on the upper right. http://www.deltacd.org/get-involved.aspx Additionally, there is a meeting scheduled this weekend in Gaylord, a "downstate" spinoff of the Marquette meeting. The effort is to build momentum culminating in a rally in Lansing near Memorial Day. You can find that information at this link: http://www.theoutspokensportsman.net/ There are many things going on with the DNR and the DEQ that are not making it to mainstream media, and certainly, southeast Michigan sportsman are in the dark about what is taking place. We are losing a lot just a little at a time. Get involved, or the outdoors as you know it will be gone. This is VERY serious. There is a new link regarding my post above to view the first video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96l4mZsCKI0

Following that video, a meeting was held in Marquette in February. This link will take you to Delta County Conservation District website where a video is posted documenting that meeting. Click on the link and then click on the video on the upper right.

http://www.deltacd.org/get-involved.aspx

Additionally, there is a meeting scheduled this weekend in Gaylord, a "downstate" spinoff of the Marquette meeting. The effort is to build momentum culminating in a rally in Lansing near Memorial Day.

You can find that information at this link:

http://www.theoutspokensportsman.net/

There are many things going on with the DNR and the DEQ that are not making it to mainstream media, and certainly, southeast Michigan sportsman are in the dark about what is taking place. We are losing a lot just a little at a time. Get involved, or the outdoors as you know it will be gone. This is VERY serious.

]]> By: bronson yurgens http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-36589 bronson yurgens Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:05:16 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-36589 well i have to say i am not at all happy with this decison that might or might not be made dy the DNR Becuse 1.when you see the prices go up on somthing then with those chances you won't want to buy that product, so if you think about it if the price goes up then people will start turning off to this subject. well i have to say i am not at all happy with this decison that might or might not be made dy the DNR Becuse 1.when you see the prices go up on somthing then with those chances you won't want to buy that product, so if you think about it if the price goes up then people will start turning off to this subject.

]]> By: Spencer http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-35668 Spencer Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:33:02 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-35668 To the person who posted that they should have free reign to hunt without a license on private land... That is rediculous. You may own the land, you do not own the animals just because they walk onto your land. Give me a break, so you should be allowed to shoot every deer that steps foot on your property and if not, how would that be controlled if a license wasn't required? To the person who posted that they should have free reign to hunt without a license on private land... That is rediculous. You may own the land, you do not own the animals just because they walk onto your land. Give me a break, so you should be allowed to shoot every deer that steps foot on your property and if not, how would that be controlled if a license wasn't required?

]]> By: George http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-28790 George Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:56:01 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-28790 I am in the middle of a self initiative on behalf of the Michigan Outdoor motorized and consumptives sports enthusiast. Simply put, I dont believe the MUCC, MSA, and other "associations" if you will, are taking this latest fiasco to task as they should be. Rather they are participating in the watering down of the real issues within Michigan's DNR. That said, without a long history lesson, I urge you to visit the below website, which is snowmobile oriented. Scroll down the homepage a bit to the FRIDAY DECEMBER 21st UPDATE. Just below that is a video you can watch w/a high speed connection directly from a "youtube" page. The video is from "Buck LeVasseur's" outdoor show, December 17th, 2007, broadcast out of Marquette. it's 10 minutes long. If you have seen this or your members are familiar with it, I apologize for taking up your time. On the other hand if you havent, it's a bigtime eye opener. Our goal, at this point is to get EVERYONE on the same page and take the DNR to the woodshed so to speak. We dont feel this is a mere oversight, rather, a hiccup within the DNR that has left a crucial door open to their operations. All these years, one would like to believe an attitude like this is paranoia. Well, at this time, I would like to see the DNR PROVE that paranoia. you can view the video here: http://www.biskitscloset.com/home.htm I am in the middle of a self initiative on behalf of the Michigan Outdoor motorized and consumptives sports enthusiast. Simply put, I dont believe the MUCC, MSA, and other "associations" if you will, are taking this latest fiasco to task as they should be. Rather they are participating in the watering down of the real issues within Michigan's DNR. That said, without a long history lesson, I urge you to visit the below website, which is snowmobile oriented. Scroll down the homepage a bit to the FRIDAY DECEMBER 21st UPDATE.

Just below that is a video you can watch w/a high speed connection directly from a "youtube" page. The video is from "Buck LeVasseur's" outdoor show, December 17th, 2007, broadcast out of Marquette. it's 10 minutes long.

If you have seen this or your members are familiar with it, I apologize for taking up your time. On the other hand if you havent, it's a bigtime eye opener.

Our goal, at this point is to get EVERYONE on the same page and take the DNR to the woodshed so to speak. We dont feel this is a mere oversight, rather, a hiccup within the DNR that has left a crucial door open to their operations. All these years, one would like to believe an attitude like this is paranoia. Well, at this time, I would like to see the DNR PROVE that paranoia.

you can view the video here:
http://www.biskitscloset.com/home.htm

]]> By: Max http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-27410 Max Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:42:16 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-27410 Hello, my dad and I live just across the border in Ohio but have a friend in the Sturgis area who let us hunt his land this year. I've never gone deer hunting in Michigan, my dad did up until a few years ago. He suggested that we get a buck and doe tag between us and that it might cost 130 or 140 bucks total. So the guy at the counter processes 1 tag and asks for $98 or $99. Okay no biggie, I pay it. He lays the tag out and I realize...THAT WAS THE DOE TAG! A hundred dollars for a doe? Buck tag of course was $138. The guy says: It's a shame isn't it? You're doing them a service and they're gouging you for it. In the end we had a good hunt, deer were everywhere. We threw some money together to get another tag and came home with 2 bucks and a doe. I don't plan to come back, though. I can get the same results in southern Ohio at a fraction of the price. Hello, my dad and I live just across the border in Ohio but have a friend in the Sturgis area who let us hunt his land this year. I've never gone deer hunting in Michigan, my dad did up until a few years ago. He suggested that we get a buck and doe tag between us and that it might cost 130 or 140 bucks total.

So the guy at the counter processes 1 tag and asks for $98 or $99. Okay no biggie, I pay it. He lays the tag out and I realize...THAT WAS THE DOE TAG! A hundred dollars for a doe? Buck tag of course was $138. The guy says: It's a shame isn't it? You're doing them a service and they're gouging you for it.

In the end we had a good hunt, deer were everywhere. We threw some money together to get another tag and came home with 2 bucks and a doe. I don't plan to come back, though. I can get the same results in southern Ohio at a fraction of the price.

]]> By: Nick Utter http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-27290 Nick Utter Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:49:56 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-27290 Don't you think that there is enough poaching and people shooting deer and not buying a tag and just cutting the deer up thier self going on already?? If they double the price of deer licences then people will not buy tags and still hunt. Plus money is already a tight budget for the blue collar folks. I think that they are just greaty mother fuckers that want more money. (another quick way to earn an extra buck). I don't agree with doubleing the price of licences Don't you think that there is enough poaching and people shooting deer and not buying a tag and just cutting the deer up thier self going on already?? If they double the price of deer licences then people will not buy tags and still hunt.

Plus money is already a tight budget for the blue collar folks. I think that they are just greaty mother fuckers that want more money. (another quick way to earn an extra buck).

I don't agree with doubleing the price of licences

]]> By: Skeptic Al http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25725 Skeptic Al Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:37:05 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25725 You own a "summer house in Michigan on a chain of lakes" and you are going to have problems paying a doubled license fee? I'm sorry, but I find that utterly impossible to believe. Michigan is going to lose its fish and water if the people who enjoy them don't step up on their behalf. We're in a battle with rising pressures on our water at the same time the cost of employing people to respond to these pressures is also going up. Math is hard, but it gets easier if you open your eyes. You own a "summer house in Michigan on a chain of lakes" and you are going to have problems paying a doubled license fee?

I'm sorry, but I find that utterly impossible to believe.

Michigan is going to lose its fish and water if the people who enjoy them don't step up on their behalf. We're in a battle with rising pressures on our water at the same time the cost of employing people to respond to these pressures is also going up.

Math is hard, but it gets easier if you open your eyes.

]]> By: Jim and Chris http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25701 Jim and Chris Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:32:40 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25701 We have a summer house in Michigan on a chain of lakes. We believe that a small increase would be ok, but if it becomes a ridiculous increase, we will have to seriously think about whether we want to keep the house in Michigan. Our kids love to come and fish , but they would not be able to afford very expensive licenses. We can't afford to pay for everyone's license that comes to enjoy the fishing and the surroundings. Over the years we have spent a lot of money in this community and feel that we have truly contributed to the good of this state. It hasn't been a "one way street" that we have taken and given nothing back. Right now we are paying extra to control the weeds in the lake- which isn't working so far. We can't take on very many more expenses before we have to decide whether to just give up our "second" home. I do hope that wisdom is used in this decision - Michigan could lose more money than made on this one. We have a summer house in Michigan on a chain of lakes. We believe that a small increase would be ok, but if it becomes a ridiculous increase, we will have to seriously think about whether we want to keep the house in Michigan. Our kids love to come and fish , but they would not be able to afford very expensive licenses. We can't afford to pay for everyone's license that comes to enjoy the fishing and the surroundings. Over the years we have spent a lot of money in this community and feel that we have truly contributed to the good of this state. It hasn't been a "one way street" that we have taken and given nothing back. Right now we are paying extra to control the weeds in the lake- which isn't working so far. We can't take on very many more expenses before we have to decide whether to just give up our "second" home. I do hope that wisdom is used in this decision - Michigan could lose more money than made on this one.

]]> By: Cmsy http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25442 Cmsy Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:49 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25442 CJ Thank you CJ for at least being compassionate enough to say your sorry..... You do not know what it is all about or you wouldn't be laughing in other peoples faces implying us GM retirees are less than middle class anymore. You just like to see yourself talk, and not human enough to come forth and say that to a real man. Sorry to hear about you only getting 50% medical care, who's fault is that you staying in the armed forces for that long. No brains to do manual labor????? lol Kidding aside, a part-time job may suffice the other 50%. Would you like me to forward the protocol to enlighten you of what GM workforce, retirees had to lose due to the economy? Or would you rather keep thinking for the rest of your life the grief you are experiencing of what other people are paying for their health care and feeling slighted? Feel bad for people like you that cannot accept life for what it is worth and be happy your still alive and not in Iraq getting killed. CJ
Thank you CJ for at least being compassionate enough to say your sorry.....
You do not know what it is all about or you wouldn't be laughing in other peoples faces implying us GM retirees are less than middle class anymore. You just like to see yourself talk, and not human enough to come forth and say that to a real man. Sorry to hear about you only getting 50% medical care, who's fault is that you staying in the armed forces for that long. No brains to do manual labor????? lol
Kidding aside, a part-time job may suffice the other 50%. Would you like me to forward the protocol to enlighten you of what GM workforce, retirees had to lose due to the economy? Or would you rather keep thinking for the rest of your life the grief you are experiencing of what other people are paying for their health care and feeling slighted? Feel bad for people like you that cannot accept life for what it is worth and be happy your still alive and not in Iraq getting killed.

]]> By: CJ http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25329 CJ Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:43:55 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-25329 Sorry to here you aren't in the middle class anymore GM. Yeah, i know what it's all about. I spent 20 years in the military and only get 50% medical and you'se guys bit@h because you don't want to pay 25% of the medical cost share. Yeah, you're not middle class alright. LOL Sorry to here you aren't in the middle class anymore GM. Yeah, i know what it's all about. I spent 20 years in the military and only get 50% medical and you'se guys bit@h because you don't want to pay 25% of the medical cost share. Yeah, you're not middle class alright. LOL

]]> By: Cmsy http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24801 Cmsy Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:22:27 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24801 No, I do not agree that the license fee be raised. There should be a reward posted for civilians reporting poachers, and the poachers need to pay for the reward...plus....a stiff fine. That will equal out the over payment of $15 on the license fees for 2007 and in the near future. Hunting is a sport, fishing etc. is a sport. It should not be classified as otherwise and if it turns out to be otherwise (poaching), you play you pay. It would all equal out for everybody. No, I do not agree that the license fee be raised. There should be a reward posted for civilians reporting poachers, and the poachers need to pay for the reward...plus....a stiff fine. That will equal out the over payment of $15 on the license fees for 2007 and in the near future. Hunting is a sport, fishing etc. is a sport. It should not be classified as otherwise and if it turns out to be otherwise (poaching), you play you pay. It would all equal out for everybody.

]]> By: Cmsy http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24800 Cmsy Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:06:51 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24800 In response to the letter from CJ about the economy is getting worse even the license for hunting going up. You don't know what you are talking about when you bring GM union workers into this letter of yours. I am a retired GM worker and had to relocate numerous time to keep my jobs that are going and gone to Mexico and overseas. Get your facts straight before you go sounding off of what you know nothing about. We are not called the middle class any longer, and do not drive the luxury cars like you state, if you want to pick on a business leave the car industry out of it because all the labor force will eventually get paid less than $20 hr/skilled not what you come close to implying, and being able to drive cadillacs. Michigan has gone to hell that I grant you because the government in Lansing, DC is greedy and want to fill their pockets more and more. Smear your government not the working innocent people. 50 % of the manufacturing workers have either took the buy-out or moved out of state after the industry down-sized. To me that is running away with the problem and not the solution. Upper management was to blame of how these car companies were run, and now there is 50% less than what we had in the work force making good damn money that was ruined by the so-called greedy upper managment. Most do not even work for the automotive industry anymore which was a skill that no one off the street could even imagine how complex the jobs were and how hard we all worked for our money. And I mean 10-12 hrs 6 days a week in order to be able to make ends meet. After uncle sam and all the taxes we pay in Michigan get paid there is little left for the luxuries, especially if you have a family. Come on you automomotive workers, GM workers/retiress enlighten CJ it was not all a bed of roses to work for the automotive company no matter if it was GM, Fords, Chryslers. If the work did not leave you crippled or some other ailment due to the hard work we entailed it brought on stress enough to not want to live any more. And that is sad, because I was there and done that. Any person that worked for so-called sweat shops (factories) no matter automotive or otherwise was and is living a grueling sad aftermath. We were not over paid for jobs we had to do to make a living, we had to do the overtime in order to get that good money, when it was available. Upper management had favorites that did the OT and all they did was stand around and do nothing and get huge pay checks, that is what went wrong with the industry. You do not know the inside story or the knowledge to smear the GM workers. At least we had a job and only the skill that we learned for that good money and some did not have the education to do anything else but the factory work. We were not classified as the low life that can't/won't work for a living, we are union and proud of it. But did not deserve to have the jobs taken from underneath them by foreign countries. If you know so much tell us what went wrong in Michigan of why so many jobs have gone overseas. Look at our government that will tell you. It's not hard to figure out the big picture. In response to the letter from CJ about the economy is getting worse even the license for hunting going up. You don't know what you are talking about when you bring GM union workers into this letter of yours. I am a retired GM worker and had to relocate numerous time to keep my jobs that are going and gone to Mexico and overseas. Get your facts straight before you go sounding off of what you know nothing about. We are not called the middle class any longer, and do not drive the luxury cars like you state, if you want to pick on a business leave the car industry out of it because all the labor force will eventually get paid less than $20 hr/skilled not what you come close to implying, and being able to drive cadillacs. Michigan has gone to hell that I grant you because the government in Lansing, DC is greedy and want to fill their pockets more and more. Smear your government not the working innocent people. 50 % of the manufacturing workers have either took the buy-out or moved out of state after the industry down-sized. To me that is running away with the problem and not the solution. Upper management was to blame of how these car companies were run, and now there is 50% less than what we had in the work force making good damn money that was ruined by the so-called greedy upper managment.
Most do not even work for the automotive industry anymore which was a skill that no one off the street could even imagine
how complex the jobs were and how hard we all worked for our money. And I mean 10-12 hrs 6 days a week in order to be able to make ends meet. After uncle sam and all the taxes we pay in Michigan get paid there is little left for the luxuries, especially if you have a family.
Come on you automomotive workers, GM workers/retiress enlighten CJ it was not all a bed of roses to work for the automotive company no matter if it was GM, Fords, Chryslers.
If the work did not leave you crippled or some other ailment due to the hard work we entailed it brought on stress enough to not want to live any more. And that is sad, because I was there and done that. Any person that worked for so-called sweat shops (factories) no matter automotive or otherwise was and is living a grueling sad aftermath. We were not over paid for jobs we had to do to make a living, we had to do the overtime in order to get that good money, when it was available. Upper management had favorites that did the OT and all they did was stand around and do nothing and get huge pay checks, that is what went wrong with the industry. You do not know the inside story or the knowledge to smear the GM workers. At least we had a job and only the skill that we learned for that good money and some did not have the education to do anything else but the factory work. We were not classified as the low life that can't/won't work for a living, we are union and proud of it.
But did not deserve to have the jobs taken from underneath them by foreign countries. If you know so much tell us what went wrong in Michigan of why so many jobs have gone overseas. Look at our government that will tell you. It's not hard to figure out the big picture.

]]> By: CJ http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24558 CJ Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:42:30 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24558 I agree Doug L. I know a lot of people who have up and left because of the poor state Michigan is in. I'm in the U.P. because it was better, but thats changing too... I agree Doug L.

I know a lot of people who have up and left because of the poor state Michigan is in. I'm in the U.P. because it was better, but thats changing too...

]]> By: doug lockwood http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24470 doug lockwood Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:39:38 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-24470 License fees are high enough already, this will only increase poaching. Other states are less expensive for tags and have longer seasons in some cases. Michigan is so depressed now and this is not the answer. There are less hunters now and this will only speed the process of more people not hunting. The northern communities will suffer even more, with less hunters going north to hunt. The price of gas is enough to keep hunters home, let alone raising the cost of licenses. Layoff some of the do-nothing beurocrats in Lansing and use their pay to subsidise the DNR! We pay enough taxes now. I just purchased land in another state for hunting and the fees will be less as a non-resident than in Michigan if the fee increases take effect. Looks like I'll become a resident there also and pay even less!!!! License fees are high enough already, this will only increase poaching. Other states are less expensive for tags and have longer seasons in some cases. Michigan is so depressed now and this is not the answer. There are less hunters now and this will only speed the process of more people not hunting. The northern communities will suffer even more, with less hunters going north to hunt. The price of gas is enough to keep hunters home, let alone raising the cost of licenses. Layoff some of the do-nothing beurocrats in Lansing and use their pay to subsidise the DNR! We pay enough taxes now. I just purchased land in another state for hunting and the fees will be less as a non-resident than in Michigan if the fee increases take effect. Looks like I'll become a resident there also and pay even less!!!!

]]> By: CJ http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-23216 CJ Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:04:18 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-23216 Price increases!? We, the Yooper's, of the OTHER Michigan, are still waiting for the MDNR to step up and control the wolves. Wisconsin and Minnesota have quota's to get rid of the problem wolves but to this day the MDNR has not had ONE CO kill a problem wolf, they leave it up to the federal trapper from the USDA. License fee increaes only makes criminals out of good honest people. Maybe you overpaid GM Union workers can afford a $100 deer license increase but it'll just be a farse and like car insurance scams...More people not being able to afford that too so they drive without while the Ins fat cats and the union rep's drive new cadillac's and puff on that fat stogey. Ya can't take it with you, or soon we'll drag ya out in the street and whip the living tar out of ya like the old days!!?? Price increases!? We, the Yooper's, of the OTHER Michigan, are still waiting for the MDNR to step up and control the wolves. Wisconsin and Minnesota have quota's to get rid of the problem wolves but to this day the MDNR has not had ONE CO kill a problem wolf, they leave it up to the federal trapper from the USDA.
License fee increaes only makes criminals out of good honest people. Maybe you overpaid GM Union workers can afford a $100 deer license increase but it'll just be a farse and like car insurance scams...More people not being able to afford that too so they drive without while the Ins fat cats and the union rep's drive new cadillac's and puff on that fat stogey. Ya can't take it with you, or soon we'll drag ya out in the street and whip the living tar out of ya like the old days!!??

]]> By: Stop corruptions http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-23210 Stop corruptions Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:22:55 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-23210 The Michigan DNR is a fat bloated tick. Full of arrogant staff that could care a less if you fish or hunt. Fire the deer biologist right off the bat, they are sucking the blood off the sportsman for made up numbers. The UP use to be full of deer now you are hard press to see one in western UP. Lots of wolves but the only deer you see are in town to get away from the wolves. The whole wolf program is costing millions as our DNR sucks the life out you, outright lies on deer numbers. Oh yea the DNR is lying about the true cost of wolves. It is real easy to tell when the DNR is lying every time they talk about wolves or deer numbers.These corrupt arrogant bureaucrats need to be fired and never allow to work for the state again. I remember all the lies on how the wolves won't hurt the deer population. Well 200,000 deer hunters quit hunting because of no deer. Fire the whole DNR the state would be better off. Hell a 12 year old boy scout could count deer better then the lying experts the DNR hired. Feed up move out of state it is lost cause to much corruptions in the DNR, jobs heading to China, housing market failing, property taxes going up every year. Now double the license fees so the DNR can pay all the crooks to lie to the sportsman. Yep your right hell just make license fees $100 who care the DNR sure doesn't. You are granted the privilege to hunt from blood sucking corrupt bureaucrats. The Michigan DNR is a fat bloated tick. Full of arrogant staff that could care a less if you fish or hunt. Fire the deer biologist right off the bat, they are sucking the blood off the sportsman for made up numbers. The UP use to be full of deer now you are hard press to see one in western UP. Lots of wolves but the only deer you see are in town to get away from the wolves. The whole wolf program is costing millions as our DNR sucks the life out you, outright lies on deer numbers. Oh yea the DNR is lying about the true cost of wolves. It is real easy to tell when the DNR is lying every time they talk about wolves or deer numbers.These corrupt arrogant bureaucrats need to be fired and never allow to work for the state again. I remember all the lies on how the wolves won't hurt the deer population. Well 200,000 deer hunters quit hunting because of no deer. Fire the whole DNR the state would be better off. Hell a 12 year old boy scout could count deer better then the lying experts the DNR hired. Feed up move out of state it is lost cause to much corruptions in the DNR, jobs heading to China, housing market failing, property taxes going up every year. Now double the license fees so the DNR can pay all the crooks to lie to the sportsman. Yep your right hell just make license fees $100 who care the DNR sure doesn't. You are granted the privilege to hunt from blood sucking corrupt bureaucrats.

]]> By: Silver spoon http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-22638 Silver spoon Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:02:18 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-22638 How do we pay for the DNR Albert? Game & fisheries management, enforcement, trails? Should I pay for your hunting and fishing? Grow up, youngster - there's no free lunch and you're paying less than most other people in the country for 20 times the natural resource. How do we pay for the DNR Albert? Game & fisheries management, enforcement, trails?

Should I pay for your hunting and fishing?

Grow up, youngster - there's no free lunch and you're paying less than most other people in the country for 20 times the natural resource.

]]> By: albert decker http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-22634 albert decker Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:02:46 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-22634 our governor must have been born with a silver spoon in her mouth. our economy is in the toilet. yet she again wants to raise fees on the people who cannoy afford to hunt to bolster there food supply for the winter. do we hear maybe a 10% increase?. again she wants to double license fees and taxes. as a senior i cannot afford this governor anymore. send her back to lah lah land maybe they can our governor must have been born with a silver spoon in her mouth. our economy is in the toilet. yet she again wants to raise fees on the people who cannoy afford to hunt to bolster there food supply for the winter. do we hear maybe a 10% increase?. again she wants to double license fees and taxes. as a senior i cannot afford this governor anymore. send her back to lah lah land maybe they can

]]> By: Dean Watkins http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19824 Dean Watkins Wed, 02 May 2007 21:50:59 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19824 Larry, I'm not a bigot or a homophobe. I'm just someone that is tired of liberals like you trying to push your agenda on other people. People can do what they want but it's not part of our natural world and not part of our constitution to marry the same sex. I wouldn't teach my children to hate of fear anyone. Especially people like you. Larry do you hunt? If you don't then you don't have any place to call hunters pathetic. Some of us live in rural areas and rely heavely on the natural resources. I think a more fair solution would be for you to pay a higher driver license fee to support our DNR. Why should we be the only ones to bear this burden. Have you even ever been in the woods before? And I mean not your local park, the woods. Wouldn't you rather see the money that is allocated spent properly rather then impose an irresponsible tax on a small demographic of the population. How can you be so snow balled by what is going on? Then you have the audacity to get online and ramble on with your garbage. You'll be exposed soon none the less. Seek the forgiveness of Jesus Christ. I forgive you for your irresponsible transgressions into matters you aren't educated on. By the way, you have a computer, could you not have taken the time to spell properly? Or I guess you need to complain to someone about your own spelling. Larry,

I'm not a bigot or a homophobe. I'm just someone that is tired of liberals like you trying to push your agenda on other people. People can do what they want but it's not part of our natural world and not part of our constitution to marry the same sex. I wouldn't teach my children to hate of fear anyone. Especially people like you.

Larry do you hunt? If you don't then you don't have any place to call hunters pathetic. Some of us live in rural areas and rely heavely on the natural resources. I think a more fair solution would be for you to pay a higher driver license fee to support our DNR. Why should we be the only ones to bear this burden.

Have you even ever been in the woods before? And I mean not your local park, the woods. Wouldn't you rather see the money that is allocated spent properly rather then impose an irresponsible tax on a small demographic of the population.

How can you be so snow balled by what is going on? Then you have the audacity to get online and ramble on with your garbage. You'll be exposed soon none the less.

Seek the forgiveness of Jesus Christ. I forgive you for your irresponsible transgressions into matters you aren't educated on. By the way, you have a computer, could you not have taken the time to spell properly? Or I guess you need to complain to someone about your own spelling.

]]> By: Larry http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19801 Larry Tue, 01 May 2007 18:34:56 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19801 Just a comment for Dean Watkins: Thanks for your post (which was deleated from this forum). You more than made my case with your attacks which were so far in right field they are out of play. Just so you know, Their are many things I don't wish my children to experience the top of that list is a bigot, homophobe, and a racist. Larry Just a comment for Dean Watkins: Thanks for your post (which was deleated from this forum). You more than made my case with your attacks which were so far in right field they are out of play. Just so you know, Their are many things I don't wish my children to experience the top of that list is a bigot, homophobe, and a racist. Larry

]]> By: farlane http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19795 farlane Tue, 01 May 2007 10:12:52 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-19795 <b>Editor's note</b> Personal attacks are not permitted. Editor's note Personal attacks are not permitted.

]]> By: zack http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18444 zack Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:52:46 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18444 If i can't afford a license i will probably end up having to poach because that is all my family lives on during the winter. But if the prices skirocket then i guess we will have no coice but to poach. If i can't afford a license i will probably end up having to poach because that is all my family lives on during the winter. But if the prices skirocket then i guess we will have no coice but to poach.

]]> By: Dean Watkins http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18407 Dean Watkins Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:57 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18407 All, Great stuff but nothing happens if you don't call the govenor's office. Call the Govenors office and tell her people that you are voter and do NOT support the proposed fee increases and that you do not support new service taxes here in Michigan. Here number is 517-373-3400. Call anytime day or night and leave your name and phone number so they know you are a registered voter. This is serious stuff people and we need to flood her office with calls, faxes and emails. All,

Great stuff but nothing happens if you don't call the govenor's office.

Call the Govenors office and tell her people that you are voter and do NOT support the proposed fee increases and that you do not support new service taxes here in Michigan.

Here number is 517-373-3400. Call anytime day or night and leave your name and phone number so they know you are a registered voter. This is serious stuff people and we need to flood her office with calls, faxes and emails.

]]> By: Travas http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18292 Travas Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:24:21 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18292 All the DNR is doing is encouraging people to poach, I wont be able to afford to hunt if the prices go up like they are talking. Three people in my family hunt and if we buy all the tags we need it will cost well over $400 you can buy beef for that! All the DNR is doing is encouraging people to poach, I wont be able to afford to hunt if the prices go up like they are talking. Three people in my family hunt and if we buy all the tags we need it will cost well over $400 you can buy beef for that!

]]> By: zack http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18282 zack Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:23 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18282 I think it is just another way for grandholm to get money out of the state without breaking into the budgets of what she likes. And for those people who say that it is nt her fault it is the same with President Bush. That is just my opinion of course. I think it is just another way for grandholm to get money out of the state without breaking into the budgets of what she likes. And for those people who say that it is nt her fault it is the same with President Bush. That is just my opinion of course.

]]> By: John http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18272 John Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:35:35 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18272 good job Jennifer Granholm, you sure put the environment first like you said you were. Also good job with the education "no school cuts" every child got a 209 dollar cut from the state. At least at my school. We dont have enough money in our school to run heat during the winter and we just got new "energy efficent" heaters. I live in Burton and the more time goes by the more i think on how you say one think and the other happens. Michigan is falling apart, and the only thing going for it is the hunting and fishing and now, your raising the prices in hope that the state debt will go down. Maybe you shouldnt spend like 4 mill on parks that no one is going to go to. This increase it so rediculous it make me sad knowing that my children might not be able to go fishing or hunting as much because i would have to pay so much per year for something we should get for free anyway. I understand that the state needs money but a 100% increase well come on. Already there was an increase to get in to a state park and now you have to pay to do what you would do inside of it. good job Jennifer Granholm, you sure put the environment first like you said you were. Also good job with the education "no school cuts" every child got a 209 dollar cut from the state. At least at my school. We dont have enough money in our school to run heat during the winter and we just got new "energy efficent" heaters. I live in Burton and the more time goes by the more i think on how you say one think and the other happens. Michigan is falling apart, and the only thing going for it is the hunting and fishing and now, your raising the prices in hope that the state debt will go down. Maybe you shouldnt spend like 4 mill on parks that no one is going to go to. This increase it so rediculous it make me sad knowing that my children might not be able to go fishing or hunting as much because i would have to pay so much per year for something we should get for free anyway. I understand that the state needs money but a 100% increase well come on. Already there was an increase to get in to a state park and now you have to pay to do what you would do inside of it.

]]> By: Blagoy Pogoncheff http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18033 Blagoy Pogoncheff Wed, 25 Apr 2007 03:52:05 +0000 http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/should-the-dnr-raise-hunting-license-fees/#comment-18033 I am a 3rd generation sportsmen of my family. I agree with many other hunters the licenses should not be doubled in price. First the state funnels money away from my childrens educational funds, and now you want to take the only meat I can afford and take it away too. I have to supplement my food bill by hunting venison rabbit and fishing. I guess that someone in the state could STOP USING A STATE OWNED VEHICLE AND USE THEIR OWN. I find it absolutely ridiculous that you not only think its fair, but claim there are no other areas to make cuts. If michigan licenses would raise where it would be more expensive for hunters to hunt in other states the income generated from their spending would hurt not only the DNR in License fees but the tourist and hunting associated buisnesses would lose money also. Therefore depleting the state of much needed additional revenues. BY RAISING FEES WE INCREASE THE POSSIBLY OF POACHING IN AND OUT OF SEASON. -Why take hunter safety as a kid... When your father will say " (son/daughter) I am sorry we cannot hunt or fish together because I cannot afford 2 licenses." Because of this burden of higher fees placed on families, we will lose the next generations of sportsmen. I can barely meet the $125.00 plus money for supplies to hunt and fish. All people who feel raising license fees should be raised have to be aware of the fact that it may cause an increase in car deer accidents raising the cost of automobile insurance for everyone and increasing the loss of human life on the road. I support the non-raising of hunting and fishing fees so that all incomes can participate in sportmen activities. There are so many families who in todays economy can't afford food and have to rely on hunting and fishing to survive. I am a 3rd generation sportsmen of my family. I agree with many other hunters the licenses should not be doubled in price. First the state funnels money away from my childrens educational funds, and now you want to take the only meat I can afford and take it away too. I have to supplement my food bill by hunting venison rabbit and fishing. I guess that someone in the state could STOP USING A STATE OWNED VEHICLE AND USE THEIR OWN. I find it absolutely ridiculous that you not only think its fair, but claim there are no other areas to make cuts. If michigan licenses would raise where it would be more expensive for hunters to hunt in other states the income generated from their spending would hurt not only the DNR in License fees but the tourist and hunting associated buisnesses would lose money also. Therefore depleting the state of much needed additional revenues. BY RAISING FEES WE INCREASE THE POSSIBLY OF POACHING IN AND OUT OF SEASON.
-Why take hunter safety as a kid... When your father will say " (son/daughter) I am sorry we cannot hunt or fish together because I cannot afford 2 licenses." Because of this burden of higher fees placed on families, we will lose the next generations of sportsmen.
I can barely meet the $125.00 plus money for supplies to hunt and fish.
All people who feel raising license fees should be raised have to be aware of the fact that it may cause an increase in car deer accidents raising the cost of automobile insurance for everyone and increasing the loss of human life on the road.

I support the non-raising of hunting and fishing fees so that all incomes can participate in sportmen activities.
There are so many families who in todays economy can't afford food and have to rely on hunting and fishing to survive.

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